{"id":2312,"date":"2025-02-14T16:25:53","date_gmt":"2025-02-14T21:25:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/?p=2312"},"modified":"2025-02-15T22:29:49","modified_gmt":"2025-02-16T03:29:49","slug":"pathology-cases-leukocyte-degeneration-mimicking-lymphoma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/2025\/02\/14\/pathology-cases-leukocyte-degeneration-mimicking-lymphoma\/","title":{"rendered":"Pathology cases- Leukocyte degeneration mimicking lymphoma?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This case is not really that much of a diagnostic dilemma, but it reminded me of an old case I had many many years ago.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll talk about that below.\u00a0 However, this appearance certainly caused me a bit of a pause when I was a baby pathologist, and it might be a good reminder for the younger tykes among us.\u00a0 It&#8217;s also a reminder to focus more on low power morphology than high power morphology.\u00a0 As one of my teachers, Fred Askin, told me when I was a resident, I should look at cases with a &#8220;low power objective and high power intellect.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So, take a look at these cells from the lung:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7157.div_.webp\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2316\" src=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7157.div_-1024x683.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"688\" height=\"459\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7157.div_-1024x683.webp 1024w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7157.div_-300x200.webp 300w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7157.div_-768x512.webp 768w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7157.div_-1536x1025.webp 1536w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7157.div_-1600x1067.webp 1600w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7157.div_.webp 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Looks a bit like a mass of anaplastic cells, desu ne?\u00a0 Big variable nuclei, some folded, variable small &#8220;nucleoli&#8221;, lots of pyknosis and some cells that are at that &#8220;can&#8217;t tell if it&#8217;s pyknosis or funny looking mitosis&#8221; level.\u00a0 If one focuses on the high power appearance of this, it can be a bit problematic.<\/p>\n<p>If you pull out a bit, they clearly in something, and if you scout around, there are a few fragments of respiratory epithelium.\u00a0 It&#8217;s clearly a bunch of cells in a bronchiole:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7166.div_.webp\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2313\" src=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7166.div_-1024x683.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"688\" height=\"459\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7166.div_-1024x683.webp 1024w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7166.div_-300x200.webp 300w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7166.div_-768x512.webp 768w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7166.div_-1536x1025.webp 1536w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7166.div_-1600x1067.webp 1600w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7166.div_.webp 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Still, it has a mass-like appearance, and you can get wacky fragments of things in the lungs&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>But, if you move around more at low power, you see the more classic bronchopneumonia pattern, regardless of the cytolologic appearance:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7161.div_.webp\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2315\" src=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7161.div_-1024x683.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"688\" height=\"459\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7161.div_-1024x683.webp 1024w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7161.div_-300x200.webp 300w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7161.div_-768x512.webp 768w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7161.div_-1536x1025.webp 1536w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7161.div_-1600x1067.webp 1600w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7161.div_.webp 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In some of these areas, the inflammatory cells are a bit better preserved, and some &#8220;real&#8221; polymorphonuclear leukocytes are still recognizable:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7163.div_.webp\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-2314\" src=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7163.div_-1024x683.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"688\" height=\"459\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7163.div_-1024x683.webp 1024w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7163.div_-300x200.webp 300w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7163.div_-768x512.webp 768w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7163.div_-1536x1025.webp 1536w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7163.div_-1600x1067.webp 1600w, https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/7163.div_.webp 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So, this is just a run-of-the-mill bronchopneumonia in a person who&#8217;s been dead awhile.\u00a0 The dysplastic\/anaplastic-appearing cells are degenerating leukocytes, probably lymphocytes and other mononuclear cells.\u00a0 There&#8217;s a pretty good literature on this progression.\u00a0 Polys fall apart first, and lymphocytes last significantly longer.\u00a0 So, if you are looking at a collection of cells you might not see any polys, but a bunch of atypical or barely recognizable lymphs.\u00a0 It kinda looks lymphoma-like to me on high power.\u00a0 \u00a0It&#8217;s possible to make that mistake if you focus too much on high power appearance in isolation.<\/p>\n<p>This came up in one of my cases many years ago when an outside consultant reviewed one of my autopsies.\u00a0 It was a baby found dead at home. I don&#8217;t actually remember what the child died of, but I think it was head trauma.\u00a0 The baby was taken to the hospital and, even thought the infant was clearly dead, a CBC was performed.\u00a0 It showed a white cell count of almost 100,000.\u00a0 On histology, the cells had this atypical appearance.\u00a0 The consultant claimed that I had missed a lymphoma.<\/p>\n<p>But no.\u00a0 First, CBCs in the postmortem period are\u00a0 *almost* useless.\u00a0 The blood settles after death, and the counts are a function of where on the body you sample.\u00a0 In particular, if you sample just right, you can get the equivalent of a sample from the buffy coat. There was a study done back in the 1980s, I think that sampled blood from cadavers at various sites.\u00a0 They found large differences in hct, wbc, etc.\u00a0 I no longer have that reference, so if any of you old folk reading this remember it, send it to me.\u00a0 Second, if there is a significant postmortem interval, then doing a differential may be almost impossible.to do a differential.\u00a0 There are a large number of studies looking at the degradation of both red and white cells in the postmortem period.\u00a0 Trying to quantify that degradation is yet another windmill for time-of-death enthusiasts to tilt at.<\/p>\n<p>UPDATE:\u00a0 I still can&#8217;t find that old article, but someone sent me a reference to postmortem CT that indicates that the hct in dependent areas rises to 80% with hypostasis:\u00a0 Takahashi, N., Satou, C., Higuchi, T., Shiotani, M., Maeda, H. and Hirose, Y., 2010. Quantitative analysis of intracranial hypostasis: comparison of early postmortem and antemortem CT findings.\u00a0<i>American Journal of Roentgenology<\/i>,\u00a0<i>195<\/i>(6), pp.W388-W393.<\/p>\n<p>As always, the pics are free for use with or without attribution, though attribution is appreciated.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This case is not really that much of a diagnostic dilemma, but it reminded me of an old case I&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[99,109,60,1],"tags":[59,56,65,28],"class_list":["post-2312","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-forensic-pathology","category-pathology-cases","category-photomicrographs","category-uncategorized","tag-autopsy","tag-histology","tag-lung","tag-pathology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2312","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2312"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2312\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2321,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2312\/revisions\/2321"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2312"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2312"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wordpress.forensicpath.us\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2312"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}